Interview with Paul Hellier, July 22, 2025

Many thanks to Paul Hellier of Fair Food Forager, for having me back on his podcast. In a wide-ranging discussion, we got into:

• the general lack of interest in the Manchester Arena incident, despite its immense political signifiance;
• why most people seem to be unaware of, or disinterested in, the means by which it is being herded towards tyranny;
• how the Omniwar remains invisible;
• the three camps of awareness and algorithmic kettling;
• the false binaries that keep people trapped in Camp 2;
• the illusion of Trump as a saviour figure, as exposed by his first few months of his second term in office and the technocratic takeover of the United States;
• GovCorp/GovTech and the AI-powered digital state;
• mechanisms of deception used to trick the population into supporting measures that lead to its subjugation and ultimate enslavement;
• the two-party delusion;
• rising wealth inequalities globally;
• an all-digital financial system as a totalitarian control system;
• Aman Jabbi and the digitial surveillance system maturing all around us;
• the inescapability of a wireless (bio)digital control system;
• the 9/11 Memorial Museum as an exercise in mind control and occultism;
• televisual propaganda and trauma-based mind control;
• trauma bonding and people’s mistaken belief that the government was trying to “protect” them during Covid;
• the global class war being waged via the transnational deep state;
• the failure of the political class to serve and protect the public;
• Echoes of the Third Reich;
• the term “conspiracy theory”;
• academia’s failure to speak truth to power — what if it had called out the obvious “9/11” lies two decades ago?;
• academia’s servile defence of power and academics as “experts in legitimation”;
• financial pressures on UK universities and their consequences for knowledge production;
• the outsourcing of thinking to AI, even though AI lies;
• AI and the threat of mass psychosis, induced one person at a time;
• agentic AI and outsourcing responsibility;
• cognitive warfare and its threat to liberal democracy;
• a society of “smart” phone addicts — “soft” addiction is now turning hard;
• transhumanist as a eugenics discourse; and
• the military dimension to intracorporeal nanotechnologies and human bodies as nodes on a technocratic control grid.
• network-centric warfare and human bodies as nodes on a network;
• AI and a society of maximum efficiency vs. a free society;
• the IBM and the Holocaust, Operation Phoenix, the information liquidation model, and social media;
• Palantir, the CIA, and the privatization of Total Information Awareness;
• the transformation of Facebook and YouTube from relatively free platforms to censorship machines;
• information warfare driving people from one online pen to the next (social media as a social containment mechanism);
• using digital technologies (including digital currencies) to “switch people off”;
• meta glasses and the complete erosion of privacy;
• the battle for the brain — how advanced are the relevant technologies?;
• neurological control one person at a time?;
• Neuralink — a psy-op?;
• the removal of ethical frameworks in times of war and experimenting on entire populations;
• from “no pixie dust” to real technologies, no longer sci-fi;
• NASA’s “IT/Bio/Nano era”;
• the critical inflection point that is being reached as digital currencies, AI.gov, the digital state, etc. are all being rolled out;
• why I do not see parallel societies as a durable solution;
• the importance of mass non-compliance;
• a century of propaganda and psy-ops to impede the development of class consciousness;
• the need for a positive vision to galvanize resistance;
• goodness, truth, beauty, and the role of conscience;
• the need to move from conspiratainment to action;
• the war on children; and
• reasons for optimism.